Will a long Blogroll flush your site down the search engine ranking toilet? http://www.yackyack.co.uk/google/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/ A Search Marketing Blog Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:09:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 Will a long Blogroll flush your site down the search engine ranking toilet? http://www.yackyack.co.uk/google/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-99 robwatts Sun, 28 Jan 2007 09:29:54 +0000 http://www.yackyack.co.uk/2007/01/23/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/#comment-99 Andy, I enjoyed the article, thanks for stopping by. I agree in principle yes, if you have something to say and people like it or hate it even, then you will attract a link or 2. As regards pagerank and ranking. I agree theoretically (according to the original paper) if you link out lots with this huge blog roll on every page and no one links back, or you don't have inlinks in sufficient numbers,then the classical leakage thing should occur.How this affects ranking is (I think) related also, to ones authority and trust scores too. If you don't have those (as well as all the other factors) then you won't rank either, at least thats how it appears to me today on the 28th January 2007! <del>The fun thing about all this stuff is that its by and large a moving target. It nevers stays still, there is always a little twist and turn.</del> Oops, thats a bit of a regurgitation on what I said earlier. Hi Robyn, that makes good sense. The thing with all this stuff, is that its tempting to do too much, simply because you are thinking search engines, search engines, search engines. Links do power the web, they are a form of currency even and as Andy referenced too, they can also appear to have an adverse affect; especially if you go OTT and don't have the requisite balancing inward factors. There are a myriad of ways to mask these effects, nofollow, jump urls and javascript are 3 that spring to mind. However the more tech minded search savvy may well sneer and sulk at such an audacity!I guess most of us do this blogging thing cos we like it, not because we want to conquer the world or anything like that. Some of this stuff is almost poison chaliced. Once youve drunk from the fountain of knowledge its difficult to ignore the realities; even more so if you are a geek!;) Andy, I enjoyed the article, thanks for stopping by.

I agree in principle yes, if you have something to say and people like it or hate it even, then you will attract a link or 2.

As regards pagerank and ranking. I agree theoretically (according to the original paper) if you link out lots with this huge blog roll on every page and no one links back, or you don’t have inlinks in sufficient numbers,then the classical leakage thing should occur.How this affects ranking is (I think) related also, to ones authority and trust scores too. If you don’t have those (as well as all the other factors) then you won’t rank either, at least thats how it appears to me today on the 28th January 2007!

The fun thing about all this stuff is that its by and large a moving target. It nevers stays still, there is always a little twist and turn. Oops, thats a bit of a regurgitation on what I said earlier.

Hi Robyn, that makes good sense. The thing with all this stuff, is that its tempting to do too much, simply because you are thinking search engines, search engines, search engines. Links do power the web, they are a form of currency even and as Andy referenced too, they can also appear to have an adverse affect; especially if you go OTT and don’t have the requisite balancing inward factors.

There are a myriad of ways to mask these effects, nofollow, jump urls and javascript are 3 that spring to mind. However the more tech minded search savvy may well sneer and sulk at such an audacity!I guess most of us do this blogging thing cos we like it, not because we want to conquer the world or anything like that. Some of this stuff is almost poison chaliced. Once youve drunk from the fountain of knowledge its difficult to ignore the realities; even more so if you are a geek!;)

]]> Will a long Blogroll flush your site down the search engine ranking toilet? http://www.yackyack.co.uk/google/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-94 Robyn McMaster Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:08:35 +0000 http://www.yackyack.co.uk/2007/01/23/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/#comment-94 Rob, I'm on a high learning curve, and your insights really help. I added folks to my Blog Roll after I saw some great sites on the Z-List that I wanted to visit again. Now, I'm naming them as contacts in MyBlogLog and that helps me not to lengthen the Blog Roll and at the same time gives me easy access. Rob, I’m on a high learning curve, and your insights really help. I added folks to my Blog Roll after I saw some great sites on the Z-List that I wanted to visit again. Now, I’m naming them as contacts in MyBlogLog and that helps me not to lengthen the Blog Roll and at the same time gives me easy access.

]]> Will a long Blogroll flush your site down the search engine ranking toilet? http://www.yackyack.co.uk/google/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-86 Andy Beard Sat, 27 Jan 2007 12:11:13 +0000 http://www.yackyack.co.uk/2007/01/23/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/#comment-86 Isn't MyBlogLog wonderful at helping to connect to others, just about to link through to your tracking script. You might appreciate my post on "How a blogroll can kill your pagerank" I link out a lot, use a dofollow plugin, have tons of duplicate content but don't use a blogroll. I will be building various linking out pages, but nothing sitewide, or on the front page. If you cultivate juice, you can share more out where it is deserved, from within your content. Isn’t MyBlogLog wonderful at helping to connect to others, just about to link through to your tracking script.

You might appreciate my post on “How a blogroll can kill your pagerank”

I link out a lot, use a dofollow plugin, have tons of duplicate content but don’t use a blogroll. I will be building various linking out pages, but nothing sitewide, or on the front page.

If you cultivate juice, you can share more out where it is deserved, from within your content.

]]> Will a long Blogroll flush your site down the search engine ranking toilet? http://www.yackyack.co.uk/google/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-69 Robyn McMaster Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:28:08 +0000 http://www.yackyack.co.uk/2007/01/23/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/#comment-69 Rob, you definitely stretched my dendrites and I'm growing in a sorely needed area -- technology. :-) Just today I received a message from Feed Medic that something isn't right with feed because it needs my email address... Gotta go -- the learning curve is really high for someone who never knew HTML, or the newer languages. They're Greek to me! :-) Rob, you definitely stretched my dendrites and I’m growing in a sorely needed area — technology. :-)

Just today I received a message from Feed Medic that something isn’t right with feed because it needs my email address… Gotta go — the learning curve is really high for someone who never knew HTML, or the newer languages. They’re Greek to me! :-)

]]> Will a long Blogroll flush your site down the search engine ranking toilet? http://www.yackyack.co.uk/google/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-68 robwatts Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:00:44 +0000 http://www.yackyack.co.uk/2007/01/23/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/#comment-68 Hiya Robyn Well, I'm not one to think of myself as an expert, but thanks for the vote of confidence! Its good to know I at <em>least</em> sound like I know what I'm talking about ;) You are very welcome too of course, I just hope that I added something to your knowledge pot in the process. Much of this stuff is about thinking how they *might* do something and then applying a little tech knowhow to test the hypotheses. All good fun :) Hiya Robyn

Well, I’m not one to think of myself as an expert, but thanks for the vote of confidence! Its good to know I at least sound like I know what I’m talking about ;)

You are very welcome too of course, I just hope that I added something to your knowledge pot in the process.

Much of this stuff is about thinking how they *might* do something and then applying a little tech knowhow to test the hypotheses.

All good fun :)

]]> Will a long Blogroll flush your site down the search engine ranking toilet? http://www.yackyack.co.uk/google/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-67 Robyn McMaster Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:51:33 +0000 http://www.yackyack.co.uk/2007/01/23/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/#comment-67 Rob, thanks for your very generous and thoughtful response. I read Liz Strauss's concern on this issue and wrote two letters to leaders at Technorati. They didn't provide her a real answer. Thinking that you are an expert, I just wanted to see what your thoughts are. I can see that older links might be dropped at some point, so maybe you've solved the mystery. On the other hand, Like Brad, I'm more concerned about content. I'm a lover of language and great ways to express myself and find that since I began blogging I'm writing more with readers in mind and I'm growing as a writer. Folks like Brad are a real shot in the arm! Rob, thanks for your very generous and thoughtful response. I read Liz Strauss’s concern on this issue and wrote two letters to leaders at Technorati. They didn’t provide her a real answer. Thinking that you are an expert, I just wanted to see what your thoughts are. I can see that older links might be dropped at some point, so maybe you’ve solved the mystery.

On the other hand, Like Brad, I’m more concerned about content. I’m a lover of language and great ways to express myself and find that since I began blogging I’m writing more with readers in mind and I’m growing as a writer. Folks like Brad are a real shot in the arm!

]]> Will a long Blogroll flush your site down the search engine ranking toilet? http://www.yackyack.co.uk/google/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-66 robwatts Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:12:25 +0000 http://www.yackyack.co.uk/2007/01/23/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/#comment-66 Hey Brad, thanks for commenting >If you have all the links in the world but nothing to read on your blog, what’s been accomplished in the end? Is that too simplistic? Absolutely.To chant an old mantra, it is indeed content content content that matters. Couldn't agree more. <em>Unless I were an adsense splogger perhaps</em> ;) Hey Brad, thanks for commenting

>If you have all the links in the world but nothing to read on your blog, what’s been accomplished in the end? Is that too simplistic?

Absolutely.To chant an old mantra, it is indeed content content content that matters.

Couldn’t agree more.

Unless I were an adsense splogger perhaps ;)

]]> Will a long Blogroll flush your site down the search engine ranking toilet? http://www.yackyack.co.uk/google/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/comment-page-1/#comment-65 Brad Shorr Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:06:38 +0000 http://www.yackyack.co.uk/2007/01/23/will-a-long-blogroll-flush-your-site-down-the-search-engine-toilet/#comment-65 Hi Rob, Glad I helped inspire this thoughtful post. (Thanks for the tip on my comment program, too.) I guess as a writer, I like to think that strong content is the best "link strategy". If you have all the links in the world but nothing to read on your blog, what's been accomplished in the end? Is that too simplistic? Hi Rob,
Glad I helped inspire this thoughtful post. (Thanks for the tip on my comment program, too.) I guess as a writer, I like to think that strong content is the best “link strategy”. If you have all the links in the world but nothing to read on your blog, what’s been accomplished in the end? Is that too simplistic?

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