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<p>Before I say too much else I just wanted to say that generally in most cases  I think it unnecessary to be too specific when highlighting the failings and  flaws of others. It&#8217;s too easy to point fingers and say, oh look at how crap so  and so is, or look at how so and so are doing that. In most cases it&#8217;s simply  not necessary, you can say the same thing without making an enemy for yourself.</p>
<p>Why am I gabbing on about this? Well I guess I&#8217;ve been partially inspired by  a <a href="http://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-loves-transparent-links-hit-counter-spam/5615/">piece</a>  by a guy named Loren Baker at search engine journal, a site I read regularly and  most of the time simply love to bits. Yet today, I was left with a bit of a  hmmmn taste in my mouth asking myself whether it was really necessary to out the  guys he did in the way he did. In one fell swoop he has effectively smashed the  revenue stream of one particular website ( or seriously diminished its efficacy)  and no doubt condemned the sites advertising to declining revenue streams at  some latter point.</p>
<p>The power of the written word eh?</p>
<p>Ok, so sure , anyone could  have dobbed these guys in via a search engine report link, we all know that and  hey perhaps people have already. The point is though that SEJ is read regularly  has a hefty subscriber base what is written there is practically guaranteed to  be read by Googlies and Yahoos and Msn search dudes. I don&#8217;t know Loren, so I  can&#8217;t comment on the type of guy he is or even try to second guess his motives.  At worst he might have a payday loans site at position 11 and at best he might  just be as perplexed as us all by the apparent power of the noscript tag and  authority domains and is wondering why this is still so effective, I expect  it  is the latter.</p>
<p><strong>Where is the juice &#8211; Noscript tag or Authority domain?</strong></p>
<p>To think that noscript content could have such an impact on SERPs in  isolation would be pretty silly.</p>
<p>Lets get this straight right here right now. The noscript tag is no magic  bullet. The examples highlighted at SEJ are not (or weren&#8217;t) sitting at  positions 1 and 3 in Google  simply because of a few links contained in a  noscript tag, they were there because the sites that contained their links were  from sites of multiple themes and disciplines all of which contained the hit  counter code from Hitcountermaster.com.</p>
<p><strong>False authority too easily attained</strong></p>
<p>Why does (or soon to be did) Hitcountermaster.com have so much power and  authority?</p>
<p>For those of you who may have been asleep for the past 3 or so years, domain  authority in SEM terms relates to a domains ability to rank or convey link juice  or pass pagerank. The idea is that if enough domains are linking to a singular  site then it might well mean that the site or sites  being linked to from so  many different points (domains)  in the web graph, could well be an on topic  site for the keywords being used to link through to it. It&#8217;s one of the reasons  why blogs and SMO sites  are considered favourably in the search ranking  fraternity. The idea is bolstered by the belief that individual bloggers are  less interested in gaming search engine rankings than the minority of so called  SEO&#8217;s and webmasters that are. The democratic effect of lots of people talking  about a topic dictate that this social effect should be looked at and noticed  and absorbed in any over all ranking score.</p>
<p>This all sounds somewhat perfect and idylic even. A meritocritous way of  ranking sites from the social chatter ofweblogs and other live mediums. Harder  to game, seemingly more reliable in any scoring system.</p>
<p>The applied semantic technology of old (we were told) was a vital tool for  classifying content into its various themes and classifications. People have  blogged and bragged about the importance of getting on topic themed links from  related sources ( me included at some point I&#8217;m sure) yet when we look at that  example it shows that in reality huge aspects of all this is bollocks. Forget  your themed links from the right sites and directories, feck that, just go out  and get any type of link from any type of domain that you can for your singular  target keyword and&#8230;kazaaam, you&#8217;ll get the rank you want.</p>
<p>I was going to show what I meant further by using  the Google  link command   link:http://www.hitcountermaster.com yet curiously it shows no backlinks  already, I wonder why that might be <img src='http://www.yackyack.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyways, not to worry we can use <a href="http://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.com/search?p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hitcountermaster.com&amp;bwm=i&amp;bwmf=s&amp;bwmo=&amp;fr=yfp-t-501&amp;fr2=seo-rd-se">Yahoo&#8217;s  site explorer</a> with that funny old <strong>seo-rd</strong> parameter that  they like to chuck in there  and note that there are actually 2500 + reported  backlinks for that domain. I can&#8217;t say whether this accurate or not as the SE&#8217;s  may already have applied their SEO paranoid counter measures, but the point is,  that a cursory glance over the sites shown reveals that domains that used the  hitcounter code were from a very broad range of domains and blogs. They were not  all from finance or loan related sites, in fact very very few of the sites  discussed finance or laons in anyway at all!</p>
<p>Their backlinks came from .edu&#8217;s, .orgs, .coms, .co.uk  blogs, websites about  religion, books, wood, horses in fact you name it and there was probably a site  of one sort or another linking back to hitcountermaster.com&#8217;s advertisers.</p>
<p>What it sreveals is that Google in particular doesn&#8217;t appear to work too hard  in establishing domain authority. It seems to rely on numbers and not very much  else. Why else would an uber competive term like payday loans be so easily and  readily attainable?</p>
<p>Success for attaining payday loan SERP numero uno status was arrived at just  like this.</p>
<p>1. Create a keyword domain that discussed finance and loan stuff within its  content.</p>
<p>2. Get lots of links from lots of different domains with your ideal  keywords</p>
<p>Yep, that was all there was to it. No need to get the right types  of links  from the right types of sites, just get links of whatever type and you are good  to go.</p>
<p>So they went to hitcountermaster.com and checked out their advertising rates  and happily used their advertising program to boost them up the SERP&#8217;s.  Hitmastercounter.com had domain authority, built upon the juice conveyed back  from the 1000&#8242;s of domains and sites that linked backed to it within their code.  This told Google and perhaps other search engines that here was a site that was  being linked to from lots of different domains and IP addresses. It must  therefore, be some kind of useful resource and worthy of whatever authority  score the algo decided to bestow.</p>
<p>Yet, if you look at that and weigh it against the idea of the social web and  multiple voices linking to singular things with related keywords then you see  that in this regard, hitmastercounter.com just shouldn&#8217;t have been in the same  kind of crowd. It hadn&#8217;t done anything wrong, hit counters have been around long  before Google or link text algorithms; it&#8217;s how they work, they sit on a site  and link back to the mothership to read things like referals and times and dates  and click paths.</p>
<p>So to me at least it shows that the whole &#8216;authority&#8217; thing is at best a  little weak and at worst completley and utterley underdeveloped. Why isn&#8217;t the  algo detecting multiple same text incursions?</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t it count the number of instances of keyword anchor text and  decide that a number above a certain threshold or % maybe skewed and perhaps  marked down a touch?</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t it look insider the containers of where these links are found and  make a judgement on that basis. In the payday loan example all of the links were  inside a noscript tag! Yet, the algo again didn&#8217;t detect this fact and allowed  the domain to rank for its keywords.</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t it look at the placement of the code itself and notice a pattern?  Whatever happened to the concept of Block Level Link Analysis?</p>
<p>The tactic as described is nothing new, there are 1000&#8242;s of others all doing  the same. Just go to do a search on Google or yahoo fro free hit counter and see  who is advertising. I&#8217;d bet that most are employing similar tactics to boost  their own sites or sites of clients up the SERPs. It&#8217;s an exploit that is likely  to be grown and adapted.</p>
<p>Is it going to be closed anytime soon? Hell, who knows. Surely it doesn&#8217;t  take too much effort to say if link is this or that then discount its value. It  makes you wonder what some of those search guys get up to all day&#8230;</p>
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