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<p>I&#8217;m one of these people who happens to value their privacy. Just like you do  too no doubt.</p>
<p>Occasionally if the mood takes me, I&#8217;ll share a bit more about myself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll do a little meme or I&#8217;ll open up on an issue dear to me, maybe in a  forum or some other persons blog perhaps. I&#8217;ll share my info with certain  websites. I might enter a personal email or private address, credit card  details, DOB that sort of thing.</p>
<p>The key issue is trust, I either choose or choose  not to trust  the site I  am using, I decide whether or not I want to do business with them. That business  can take the form of any number of the above described transactions, be it  personal info private info or opinion, the bottom line is that its all my stuff,  it comes from me, no one else owns or controls that, I&#8217;m a free man after  all.</p>
<p><strong>Keeping up with it all</strong></p>
<p>We live in a fast changing world that moves at break neck speeds. In the  world of technology its sometimes difficult to keep abreast of  the myriad of  innovations that seem to constantly appear on the horizon. I like that, its cool  it keeps me on my toes. I need to find out about it all too. I have a TV a  Radio, I subscribe to the odd tech journal. I read newspapers, I listen to my  friends and peers. I have a computer too (duh) and I use that to connect to the  net with (double duh)  and yes at long last I hear you say, I use those things  called search engines too.</p>
<p>In fact I use those search engines a great deal.</p>
<p><strong>Search engines are vital to our lives</strong></p>
<p>I benefit from search engines in lots of ways.</p>
<p>I could not function in the  way I do without access to a search engine. They are fundamental to how my life  is ran and structured.</p>
<p>Our world demands that to get on in it you need to be  equipped with the skills and the tools required to successfully navigate your  way around. For me, and I suspect lots of others too,  information is the lifeblood of  my progress through life. Quick and easy access to the things I need is a vital part that enables me  to move on and keep up  &#8211; the old methods of libraries and encyclopedias are old  hat. They are too slow and in some cases  often out of date the moment their  shelves are stacked.</p>
<p><strong>&gt;&gt;Search engines and Business use</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve used them to gauge the performance of my business activities.   I&#8217;ve  used them to research other companies that I compete with. I&#8217;ve used them  for competitive research purposes on behalf of clients. I&#8217;ve used them to find  new opportunities, for myself and for the companies that employ me to do their  bidding. I&#8217;ve used their products to promote both what I do and what the people  I&#8217;m paid to help do too.</p>
<p>The benefits to me have been huge and have helped me establish the type of  working life I can enjoy and benefit from. I couldn&#8217;t have learnt a fraction of  what I know without their existence. I&#8217;d have traversed my curve a whole lot  slower than what I have</p>
<p><strong>&gt;&gt;Search engine and Personal use</strong></p>
<p>Like many others I&#8217;ve also used them to research things I might write about  on my blog. I&#8217;ve used them to find other ways of connecting to other people.  I&#8217;ve used them to research personal issues. I&#8217;ve used them to research illnesses  of loved ones, I&#8217;ve used them to research legal stuff around my rights and  duties,  I&#8217;ve used them to win bets with friends or to just prove a smugarse  point or two. I&#8217;ve used them to learn all manner of things. I&#8217;ve used them to  find educational resources, interactive forums, answers to questions and  problems.</p>
<p>Without labouring the point too much its clear to say that as in the example  of  the business sphere above, I&#8217;ve benefited enormously from the advent of search engines. I&#8217;m also fortunate to be  the type of person who can grab hold of these things and use them to maximum  effect.</p>
<p><strong> It&#8217;s not one way traffic</strong></p>
<p>Of course, it isn&#8217;t all about me me me and win win win. As self enhancing and  marvelously beneficial it all looks at a glance, the search engines do benefit  too.</p>
<p>The meteoric rise and influence of some today are indicative of their mass  public appeal and use. Companies like Google being worth billions of dollars  practically overnight has been no accident. Users like me, have helped build  these  empires. Ordinary citizens and companies have written the documents that  have formed their vast databases. Documents  continually fetched and  reappraised by their search engine bots and spiders, bots that continually trawl  cyberspace in their everlasting quest for information, feeding on the knowledge  of the world, sucking everything in  like some huge information vacuum  cleaner.</p>
<p>I love this quote from Robert Morgan</p>
<blockquote><p>Knowledge is power. Information is power. The secreting or hoarding of  knowledge or information may be an act of tyranny camouflaged as  humility.</p></blockquote>
<p>But hey, search engines share the information they receive right? Absolutely  they do. Why wouldn&#8217;t they even. It isn&#8217;t theirs to keep after all, they are  simply enabling users to search and find key information within the array of  servers used to store the data.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s cool though isn&#8217;t it? Nothing wrong with that, they get to slap a few  related ads from people looking to sit alongside the queries and they benefit  from the revenue accrued from their user clicks. A marteting mans wet dream  almost &#8211; users in buy mode, get the opprtunity to click on ads from companies  looking to sell the very thing they are after.</p>
<p>So what does this have to do with that Robert Morgan quote &#8211; why am I even  blathering on about it, what does it have to do with anything I hear you  ask.</p>
<p><strong>&gt;&gt;Search engines are data miners</strong></p>
<p>If you take off the fluffy rose tinted specs and put down the kool aid for 20  seconds or so, you might be pleased or concerned to hear that search engines  also store data related to how you search and can and do attribute it to  personal users. They track your queries and track your behaviours, they talk  about that they do in the broadest of terms but give very little away on the  specifics. A <a href="http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-553961">recent  document </a>criticised one particular search engine and assigned them in the  lowest grade. A <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070609/ap_on_hi_te/google_privacy">news  article </a>reported it thus</p>
<blockquote><p>In a report released Saturday, London-based Privacy International assigned  Google its lowest possible grade. The category is reserved for companies with  “comprehensive consumer surveillance and entrenched hostility to  privacy.”</p></blockquote>
<p>See, over here in the UK we have this thing called the <a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1998/19980029.htm">data protection  act</a>. It enables people like me, should the mood so take me to request of a  company or organisation that is storing data on me, specific access to those  files and information. It enables me to keep a track on those watching me and  possibly using stuff they have on me against me or in ways I might not agree  with. Its fee based, but its there to see should I so want to see it.</p>
<p>It might be boring to repeat the list of findings the report highlights, as  I&#8217;m sure you can draw your own conclusions and theorise as to the where&#8217;s and  who&#8217;s of where some of that stuff could go.It&#8217;s certainly annoyed  one <a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/privacy-international-loses-all-credibility/">  shareholder </a> and I don&#8217;t doubt one or two more even, and one can kinda see  why too.</p>
<p>When things like this <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6740075.stm">grow legs </a>and  begin to walk then things can begin to freefall pretty quick. Questions <a href="http://ec.europa.eu/justice_home/fsj/privacy/news/docs/pr_google_16_05_07_en.pdf">begin  to get asked </a>from all manner of angles and places, <a href="http://64.233.179.110/blog_resources/Google_response_Working_Party_06_2007.pdf">forcing  carefully considered </a>responses. The  data protection working party  represents the interests of some 650 million people . It seems very reasonable  of them to ask such questions, hell why wouldn&#8217;t you even.</p>
<p><strong>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Privacy Defeciencies</strong></p>
<p>Its not too far a leap to ask why it is that a privately owned company with  an almost monopolistic grip on something so fundamental to the lives of so many  people should  be allowed unrestricted insights and access into the lives of its  users.</p>
<p>Why shouldn&#8217;t I or any other person on the planet be allowed to search in  private? Why should my actions be open to scrutiny from faceless people that I  have no knowledge of. Why should I have delve deeply into the annuls of some <a href="http://www.google.com/privacypolicy.html">corporate privacy document  </a>to find out how they are tracking what I do.</p>
<p>Hell why is there not even one mention of the word &#8216;query&#8217; or &#8216;queries&#8217; in  that document itself, is it any surprise that when <a href="http://www.privacyinternational.org">Privacy International  </a> (PI)   should identify things like&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Google logs search queries in a manner that makes them personally  identifiable but fails to provide users with the ability to edit or otherwise  expunge records of their previous searches.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;that people like me and millions of others too for that matter should sit  up and ask, hang on a minute, what is this all about then?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/privacy-international-loses-all-credibility/">Matt  cutts complains</a></p>
<blockquote><p><u><strong>Google didn’t leak user queries</strong></u></p>
<p>In this past year, AOL released <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2006/08/06/aol-proudly-releases-massive-amounts-of-user-search-data/">millions  of raw queries from hundreds of thousands of users</a>. Within days, a  journalist had <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/technology/09aol.html?ex=1181620800&amp;en=3b7b0a4e754021f7&amp;ei=5070">determined  the identity of an AOL user</a>from the queries that AOL released. But AOL got a  better grade than Google.</p></blockquote>
<p>So because Google didn&#8217;t leak those queries or mess up with the data storage  (yet) that makes it ok then? If anything those links referenced show how off  this whole thing is.</p>
<p>It really doesn&#8217;t wash for a company to be able to argue that &#8216;Oh its ok, we  aren&#8217;t gonna do anything nasty with it all, we promise, trust us..&#8217; um no sorry  buddies, why should we? You didn&#8217;t think it cool to tell us in your privacy  document, what else aren&#8217;t you telling us? How else are you making capital on  the trust I invested in you as a user? Seriously, what else aren&#8217;t you telling  me? It&#8217;s a reasonable question.</p>
<p><strong>Diminshing trust</strong></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t deny it, my mindset has shifted. For sometime now I&#8217;ve seen Google in  a different light. Yahoo, MSN for me they always we&#8217;re nothing but what they are  &#8211; a face of global capitalism. Companies set up designed to extract maximum  value for their shareholders and investors.</p>
<p>See, Google were different. They once were very very cool.  I liked this  company a whole lot.They took the webmaster community with them and people  bought into that whole do no evil mantra. People like <a href="http://www.mattcutts.com/blog">Matt </a>we&#8217;re a human interactive face  to what seemed to be a hip funky happening company.</p>
<p>With its glow lava lamps funky little logos and goofy colours, its simple  fast efficient search engine. I enjoyed following its little data refreshes and  its Google dances and all the other paraphernalia that came with it. I wanted  them to succeed, crazy huh? I, and apparently lots of other geekazoids really  did want this  group of geeks doing geeky things with tech stuff to succeed. A  breath of fresh air on what was for me at least a stale and money grabbing  profit at all costs <a href="http://www.altavista.com/">altavistic landcape</a></p>
<p>Yet today, not just over this PI report, or that EU enquiry mind; today &#8211; I&#8217;m  like, all that <a href="http://www.google.com/corporate/tenthings.html">&#8216;do no evil  stuff&#8217; </a>is just meaningless tosh now. I don&#8217;t buy their ubergeek we are all  nice and cool people image anymore,I haven&#8217;t for sometime. Reports like the one  mentioned add credence to a view that it really is about time we had some  legislation that forced certain standards upon private companies.</p>
<p>Sorry google but doing things like tracking me and not giving me opt out  options, just because its a way of improving the datasets and knowledge and  value you can give to other interested marketers and affiliates and shareholder  value  is just plain wrong. To add to the mix the fact that its not even  private, that my very queries alone can be looked at and read by some one who I  don&#8217;t even know is very disturbing too. I really don&#8217;t like it. You&#8217;ve gone too  far.</p>
<p><strong>Two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right</strong></p>
<p>Ok so sure, theoretically my ISP could well be a whole lot worse. After all  they filter all the data that I send out there. It all comes through their pipe.  Every piece of unencrypted plain text data I push through their servers could  theoretically be grabbed analysed and crunched. Thats MSN chats, emails,  websites visited, everything.</p>
<p>There are quite clearly already recognised <a href="http://www.gilc.org/verhofstadt_letter.html">serious privacy issues  </a>there too, addressed <a href="http://www.statewatch.org/news/2001/jun/07Rodota.pdf">at various  levels</a> but thats a topic for another discussion perhaps &#8211; the reality is  that most people are just blissfully unaware.</p>
<p>Search engines might argue that comparatively they are not as &#8216;bad&#8217; as  Internet Service Providers (ISP&#8217;s). That ISP&#8217;s are the potential bad boy  exploiters in all of this and to some extent I have a little sympathy with that  view, but at the same time, it really isn&#8217;t about some &#8220;they are worse than me,  so leave me alone and pick on them instead&#8221; kind of world view. Its about  ensuring that  providers of services like Google who ( agree or disagree) have a  monopolistic near 80 % stranglehold on something as fundamental and utilitarian  as search; behave in ways that ensure my personal rights and privacy are at  worst maintained and at best enhanced.</p>
<p><strong>You don&#8217;t have to use them Rob</strong></p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t really an argument to say that if I don&#8217;t like it then I should use  something else, because the others out there could well be doing the same things  or worse.</p>
<p>Search is fundamental to all of our lives. We need some strong public  accountability in our search engines enforced by strong democratic controls.</p>
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<p>I love the recent Y! acquisition,  <a href="http://www.mybloglog.com">mybloglog</a>. Its like a myspace with bells on. Ive encountered some <a href="http://sarahtowny.wordpress.com">really nice</a> and  <a href="http://cornwallseo.com/search">interesting people</a> too. In case you haven&#8217;t seen or used it before its a social media platform. You can join communities, add contacts, upload photos and if you install a piece of code you can  get stats and display photos of  visitors from their network on your site as they arrive.</p>
<p><img alt="mybloglog.gif" id="image46" src="http://www.yackyack.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/mybloglog.gif" /><br />
On the user front I think its kinda cool. IMO I think It adds an extra dimension to  ones website by way of showing an extra human dimension. You can see the latest faces of people who have visited and if you so feel inclined, go and check them out to see what they are all about; at least thats what Ive found myself doing!</p>
<p>Their stats page is cool too. Gives you a non fussy overview of where your readers came from, what they viewed and what they clicked. It even tells you what ads they clicked on too.<br />
<img alt="stats.gif" id="image47" src="http://www.yackyack.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/stats.gif" /></p>
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<p>Great, for some at least, a quick and easy way to see whats what, without the need for other 3rd party metrics. Your top 10 referrers, top 10 articles showing the number of times they were read, and the top 10 external off site link clicks within your blog posts. The ad clicking feature is good too, showing you what ad was clicked on, or at least the target destination. Ok, so its lacking in a lot of things and could be a whole lot better granted. But hey, its free and besides if you want something a little more involved there&#8217;s always Google analytics or Web trends or for the ultra paranoid amongst us, there&#8217;s the traditional on server log file analysis approach. Webaliser, Analog, AW Stats all do a pretty good job at showing you the why&#8217;s and the wherewithals (ad clicks aside perhaps).</p>
<p>The other day <a href="http://www.yackyack.co.uk/2007/01/12/im-an-seo-expert-no-really-i-am-trust-me-you-have-my-word/#comments">here</a> <a href="http://www.cornwallseo.com/search/">lyndoman</a> and I had a little light hearted discussion of some of the pluses and minuses of this whole tracking thing.</p>
<blockquote><p>I can’t see porn sites using the widget, else you would just see a lot of  hairy crusty blokes, viewing the hot lesbo action websites, lol. Good way to  blackmail.</p>
<p>But what would be cool for geeks would be mobile phone text alerts that tell  you when such and such has visited your site.</p>
<p>It’s a brilliant service with fantastic ways for it to go wrong.</p></blockquote>
<p>It got me thinking about some of the privacy issues on all this; my cynical antenna went on to dark orange status and got me thinking in terms of if they wanted to, they could actually track your entire history throughout their network. Who you visited, what you read, how long you read it for, what you bookmarked, did you comment, what did you say etc blah. Lyndoman&#8217;s comical reference to <a href="http://rafer.wirelessink.com/">Scott Rafer</a> sitting in some room with multiple screens and white cat on his lap couldn&#8217;t be so far from  reality.</p>
<p>Anyhow, it was for reasons like this that some time back I didn&#8217;t buy into the who <a href="http://www.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=1593&#038;hl=en">Google personalisation/ search history</a> thing. I don&#8217;t want Google or any other search engine for that matter knowing my searching patterns; especially when its aligned to me personally.Why? Just coz, EOS.What is really in it for me I asked myself. After a short while I realised, not very much at all. Great for them, hell yeah. Great user demographic info, priceless in terms of pushing the right products to the right people in the right places, provided I&#8217;d want them of course. As I&#8217;m not a big fan of cold calling anyways, I decided to pass.</p>
<p>So we have these privacy policies whereby we see that companies promise not to share data about us and all that &#8211;   the whole thing of course,  is built on trust. We entrust our actions to people and companies we don&#8217;t know. We assume that we are protected by law from infringements of our personal liberties and whatnot, we assume that just because they say they won&#8217;t do this or that, that they won&#8217;t. Just made me wonder really, what is there to safeguard us? Who if anybody monitors these things, where are the policies outlining who has access to the data and who doesn&#8217;t? We all remember the <a href="http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2006-08-07-n22.html">AOL user search revelations </a>, we should also remember that everything we push out there into the big wide world goes through the servers of our ISP. Thats all of our Instant messaging, emails, web browsing, video conferencing &#8211; everything. I wonder who ensures the restrictions on all that too.</p>
<p>Important questions no? What do <strong>you</strong> think?</p>
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